Sun's in the clear over global warming

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Postby nygreenguy on Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:19 pm

Donald Baker @ Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:06 pm wrote:You know how I feel on this

subject. I don't think Global Warming is man made....perhaps man contributes on a miniscule

scale, but the process would still be underway were man not even on the earth all things being

constant.
Well, like ive said many times before, your opinion is not that of

the scientific community.
Having said this, I don't think we are in any

danger of over heating the earth....
Well, weve already seen what the one

degree can do, and a few more degrees are expected in the next 50 years. And no ones talking

about the earth melting, or anything catastrophic (except stronger storms) But more people will

die due to heat stroke, more crops will fail, water will become more scarce, flooding will make

refugees out of millions. And this is all within YOUR lifetime.
In the

meantime, man will continue to adapt to his changing surroundings, and will use his ingenuity to

get around the obstacles nature will throw at him....just like he's been doing for thousands of

years.
Sure, but how many will perish unnecessairly?
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Re: Sun's in the clear over global warming

Postby Donald Baker on Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:31 pm

You're a believer in evolution are you not? Either man will

evolve or he will perish.....take your personal feelings out of the equation and you will soon

learn to accept things a lot easier. :twisted:
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Re: Sun's in the clear over global warming

Postby nygreenguy on Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:02 pm

Donald Baker @ Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:31 pm wrote:You're a

believer in evolution are you not? Either man will evolve or he will perish.....take your

personal feelings out of the equation and you will soon learn to accept things a lot easier.

:twisted:


Actually there are many species who have remained unchanged

for millions of years and are ok.

Ok, another way to look at your point is, the world is

shit, just deal with it. So if america is on its way to facisim, dont try to change it, just

learn to deal with it. Sounds like a world id just LOVE to live in.
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Postby Donald Baker on Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:04 pm

We can't stop or retard Global Warming without creating even greater

immediate problems.

We can't stop the slip toward fascism without upheaval.....are you

prepared for the upheaval?

The world is passing away just as it was meant to. Nothing is

forever.
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Postby kyfatboy on Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:29 am

I'm not certain that global climate change is man made, it may be or not. I'm

certain that man does alot of polluting of the enviorment though, and that we could change.
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Postby nygreenguy on Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:26 pm

Donald Baker @ Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:04 pm wrote:We can't stop or retard Global

Warming without creating even greater immediate problems.


Evidence?

We can't stop the slip toward fascism without

upheaval.....are you prepared for the upheaval?


Evidence?

The world is passing away just as it was meant to. Nothing

is forever.
Not even god. Zing! :)
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Postby Donald Baker on Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:18 pm

nygreenguy @ Fri 27 Jul, 13:26 wrote:
Donald Baker @ Wed Jul

25, 2007 5:04 pm wrote:
We can't stop or retard Global Warming without creating even greater

immediate problems.
Evidence?

We can't stop the

slip toward fascism without upheaval.....are you prepared for the upheaval?


Evidence?

The world is passing away just as it was meant to. Nothing

is forever.
Not even god. Zing! :)


I cannot

present evidence until we actually try to stop Global Warming. So until we start trying,

they're predictions.

As for God, if he's not forever.....then to me, that's a bigger

concern than Global Warming. Zing back at ya! :twisted:
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Postby SkiGuy on Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:29 am

nygreenguy @ Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:41 am wrote:

The NASA scientists say "Satallite imagery shows NO decernable average

temperature change in the northern hemisphere in the last 30 years, yet there is a clear average

temperature DROP in the southern hemisphere. Go figure.
Proof?


Here's your proof (attached image from COMET/MedED Program of the

National Center for Atmospheric Research)

Greenie, I notice you only use geostationary

satellite data (which cannot show info for the continent of Antarctica) in your assessments, but

(in)conveniently omit polar orbital satellite data. Why? It's the poles, especially South

Pole, that has the greatest affects on the Earth's climate.
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